Episodes — The Waggle Room
All episodes of The Waggle Room podcast.
The Waggle Room - Ep 15 - Nick De Voil - The Signal Isn't The Whole Message
— Mick sits down with Nick De Voil — business analyst, trainer and writer specialising in user experience, service design and human-centred approaches to organisational change — to explore why the explicit signal often isn't the point, and how to read what's really happening underneath.
The Waggle Room - Ep 11 - Marcus Dimbleby - When Disengagement Hides in Plain Sight
— Mick sits down with Marcus Dimbleby, founder of Effective Direction, to explore the shocking reality of workforce disengagement and what leaders can do about it. With UK engagement at just 10% globally, Marcus reveals why traditional approaches are failing and how critical thinking can transform organisations.
The Waggle Room - Ep 10 - Tricia Kennedy - Attacking Ideas, Not People In Change
— Tricia Kennedy joins Mick to explore how organisations can challenge ideas without attacking the people behind them — and why that distinction matters for real change.
The Waggle Room - Ep 9 - Nigel Thurlow - Complexity Thinking, Distributed Leadership and Teams
— Nigel Thurlow brings decades of experience from Toyota, complexity thinking, and organisational transformation to a conversation that challenges how we think about leadership, tools, and the future of work.
Dr Carrie Goucher — Why Meetings Are Failing Your Organisation
— Dr Carrie Goucher joins Mick to explore why meetings haven't improved in 50 years — and what we're getting fundamentally wrong. Drawing on her PhD in systems thinking and meeting culture, Carrie unpacks the hidden systems driving meeting dysfunction, from collabureaucracy to the parent-child dynamics that still dominate knowledge work.
The Waggle Room - Episode 7 - Chris Marren - Are we on the right frequency?
— Former commando engineer Chris Marren joins Mick to explore how military principles translate into modern leadership. From mission command and patrol lanes to the importance of specific timings and clear communication, Chris shares practical frameworks for creating clarity in complex environments.
The Waggle Room - Episode 6 - Paul Gibbons - We have the tools. Are we solving the right problems?
— Mick sits down with Paul Gibbons — CAIO Advisor, author, keynote speaker, and one of the sharpest critical thinkers in organisational change and AI — to ask why billions poured into training, change programmes, and leadership frameworks simply doesn't stick.
Mark Proctor OBE — Leadership is an Action, Not a Position
— Mark Proctor shares his insights on leadership, emphasizing the importance of making leadership relatable to real people. He discusses his personal journey from a private soldier to a brigadier in the British Army, and how his experiences shaped his understanding of leadership and followership.
Dr Daniel Hulme — AI and the Decisions That Actually Matter
— Daniel Hulme, CEO of Satalia, Chief AI Officer at WPP, founder of Faculty AI, and Founder & CEO of Conscium, explores the intersection of AI and human decision making, the value of AI, the human side of technology, and the potential for consciousness in AI.
Dave Snowden — From Cynefin to Swarm Compass
— Dave Snowden, creator of the Cynefin framework, explores how we actually make decisions in uncertainty — from sensemaking and chaos to swarm intelligence and the signals we're missing.
Mark Green — Why Change Needs a Rebellion
— Mark Green, founder of Change Rebellion, shares his insights on change management, humour, and the industry — exploring the challenges of change, the need for empathy, and the limitations of traditional methodologies.
Paul Sweeney — Magnetic Nonsense
— Paul Sweeney discusses his book 'Magnetic Nonsense' and explores the pervasive issues of critical thinking, organizational culture, and the impact of power dynamics in leadership.
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